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In 2010, Malte Huffmann and Philipp Povel moved from Berlin to Brazil to build a Zalando clone on behalf of Rocket Internet. They discuss the rocky journey from being nobodies in a foreign land to becoming market leaders, their experiences with Oliver Samwer, what they are grateful to him for, and how they are now bringing the buy-now-pay-later model to the B2B sector with their new Berlin-based startup Mondu, all in this anecdote-filled episode of the OMR Podcast.